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CCTV shows final moments of 'train rage victim before passenger stabbed him 18 times' - as v


CCTV footage shows the row in a train carriage which led to a father being stabbed to death and dying in front of his 14-year-old son.

Lee Pomeroy, 51, was knifed to death by Darren Pencille just minutes after he and his son boarded a train from Guildford, Surrey, to London Waterloo in January. Pencille insists he was defending himself.

The murder trial today saw footage of Mr Pomeroy and his teenage boy boarding the train before Pencille brushes past them, sparking a row which would lead to the attack.

Pencille is seen jabbing his finger towards the father and son. The court has heard he accused them of blocking the aisle. Mr Pomeroy then followed Pencille into another carriage, where the fatal blows were struck.

Some of Mr Pomeroy's family left the public gallery of the Old Bailey as the disturbing footage was shown. His wife, Svetlana, stayed in court and wept as the CCTV was played.

The court was also shown a video of Mr Pomoroy's son giving a statement to the police about his father's final moments.

The boy said the row started after Pencille was 'impatient' to get past them and his father wasn't the sort of man to 'let it go' or 'roll over'.

CCTV footage shows the row in a train carriage which led to a father being stabbed to death and dying in front of his 14-year-old son.

Lee Pomeroy, 51, was knifed to death by Darren Pencille just minutes after he and his son boarded a train from Guildford, Surrey, to London Waterloo in January. Pencille insists he was defending himself.

The murder trial today saw footage of Mr Pomeroy and his teenage boy boarding the train before Pencille brushes past them, sparking a row which would lead to the attack.

Pencille is seen jabbing his finger towards the father and son. The court has heard he accused them of blocking the aisle. Mr Pomeroy then followed Pencille into another carriage, where the fatal blows were struck.

Some of Mr Pomeroy's family left the public gallery of the Old Bailey as the disturbing footage was shown. His wife, Svetlana, stayed in court and wept as the CCTV was played.

The court was also shown a video of Mr Pomoroy's son giving a statement to the police about his father's final moments.

The boy said the row started after Pencille was 'impatient' to get past them and his father wasn't the sort of man to 'let it go' or 'roll over'.

CCTV footage shows the row in a train carriage which led to a father being stabbed to death and dying in front of his 14-year-old son.

Lee Pomeroy, 51, was knifed to death by Darren Pencille just minutes after he and his son boarded a train from Guildford, Surrey, to London Waterloo in January. Pencille insists he was defending himself.

The murder trial today saw footage of Mr Pomeroy and his teenage boy boarding the train before Pencille brushes past them, sparking a row which would lead to the attack.

Pencille is seen jabbing his finger towards the father and son. The court has heard he accused them of blocking the aisle. Mr Pomeroy then followed Pencille into another carriage, where the fatal blows were struck.

Some of Mr Pomeroy's family left the public gallery of the Old Bailey as the disturbing footage was shown. His wife, Svetlana, stayed in court and wept as the CCTV was played.

The court was also shown a video of Mr Pomoroy's son giving a statement to the police about his father's final moments.

The boy said the row started after Pencille was 'impatient' to get past them and his father wasn't the sort of man to 'let it go' or 'roll over'.

The footage shows Mr Pomeroy (bottom left) arguing with Pencille (centre). He followed him into another carriage, where the row continued. Mr Pomeroy was then stabbed

Describing the build-up to the attack, the boy said: 'I think the guy [Pencille] was a bit impatient. The time it took was about four or five seconds. I would say he was walking briskly. But he had to slow down, he had to stop.'

Pencille then said 'ignorance is bliss' as he walked past them, causing Mr Pomeroy to respond 'shut up', the boy said.

Pencille then told him "Man, I hate men like you" and Mr Pomeroy replied the same.

The boy continued: 'The guy, I think he said "suck your mum" and then my dad said "I did yours last night".

'I think that annoyed the guy because the guy said "come on, get off at the next station", something like that. And my dad took that as a threat so he got up with a clenched fist.'

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What the teenage son of train stabbing victim told police about his father's final moments

Mr Pomeroy's 14-year-old son described the attack in which his father was killed.

He told police: 'When we got onto the carriage my dad didn't say anything he just said 'sit there'.

'I completely didn't notice this man, I didn't ask my dad about him either. We got on the train pretty much immediately.

'My dad in my opinion took too long, I think [Pencille] was a bit impatient. The time it took was about four or five seconds.

'I would say he was walking briskly. But he had to slow down he had to stop. He said "Ignorance is bliss" as my dad sat down and he said "you what?" and the guy turned around.

'He was past me so I didn't see him but he said: "Ignorance is bliss".

Mr Pomeroy was taking his son (pictured with him when he was younger) to London on the day he was attacked and was heard saying: 'You shouldn't have humiliated me in front of my kid'

'And then my dad said "shut up" sarcastically and the man said "Man, I hate men like you".

'I can't remember the rest of what he said I wasn't paying attention. Then my dad said "I hate men like you", but I wasn't paying attention again.

'The guy I think he said "suck your mum" and then my dad said "I did yours last night".

'I think that annoyed the guy because the guy said "come on, get off at the next station", something like that. And my dad took that as a threat so he got up with a clenched fist.

'He walked quickly up to the guy and the guy turned around and went through the door saying "get off at the next station" but panicked.'

Mr Pomeroy's son said the pair then went into the next carriage and he could hear 'shouting' but not what was said.

He said he looked through the doors but could only see them gesturing at each other and did not see the fight start.

He said: 'My dad is very menacing because he's tall. The guy was taller than me but shorter than my dad.

My dad was taller so they were next to the glass by the seats and I assumed they were shouting.

'They were gesturing and stuff like that. I didn't see them actually throwing punches.

'I think I could hear them shouting. Then briefly I'm not sure how long it was I looked behind again and I see them punching each other. I wasn't paying attention to how long was. I looked around again and they are still punching.

'As they were fighting people came in from the carriage nothing was said about stabbing. As they walked by they said this is why they hate travelling on the f***ing trains - they said it jokily.

'I didn't see the stabbing whatsoever that's why I didn't assume anything like that. When I walked up I could see the blood so I was like, okay that looks bad, and I could see blood down the side of his face.

'I asked my dad what happened and he just said "he punched me". He wasn't even looking at me.'

The boy said: 'Normally when someone says something to my dad, he won't let it go, he won't just let it roll over. Whenever someone says something to my dad it's normally because they are trying to start something.

'If someone says something to my dad he would reply. But I have never seen my dad every really start a fight.'

Both Pencille and his girlfriend, Chelsea Mitchell, are on trial at London's Old Bailey

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My view: The senseless stabbing could have been avoided if the man wasn't carrying a knife, carrying knives are illegal and very dangerous. People can defend themselves by calling the police or with their hands to fight back or continue to walk away, but if the aggressor punched first, then you can fight back to defend yourself but not with a dangerous weapon. It's sad that the man died, but the video shows somethings that could have been avoided especially when Mr Pencille walked away from Mr Pomeroy, even his son said, "Normally when someone says something to my dad he won't let it go, he won't just let it roll over, but that doesn't justify his brutal murder.

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